Return-Path: Received: from tdc.dircon.co.uk by bells.cs.ucl.ac.uk with Internet SMTP id ; Wed, 18 Jan 1995 23:06:38 +0000 Received: by tdc.dircon.co.uk id AA04024 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 18 Jan 1995 23:06:27 GMT Received: from tdc.dircon.co.uk(193.128.224.1) by amnesiac via smap (V1.3) id sma004018; Wed Jan 18 23:06:12 1995 Received: by dircon.co.uk (5.67b) id AA04015; Wed, 18 Jan 1995 23:06:10 GMT Date: Wed, 18 Jan 1995 23:06:10 +0000 (GMT) From: Gordon Joly To: Gordon Joly Subject: Quote of the day (fwd) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Gordon Joly Email Address: gordo@dircon.co.uk ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 18 Jan 1995 05:50:01 -0700 From: Quote of the day To: qotd@ensu.ucalgary.ca Subject: Quote of the day "When you are confronted by any complex social system, such as an urban center or a hamster, with things about it that you're dissatisfied with and anxious to fix, you cannot just step in and set about fixing with much hope of helping. This realization is one of the sore discouragements of our century. Jay Forrester has demonstrated it mathematically, with his computer models of cities in which he makes clear that whatever you propose to do, based on common sense, will almost inevitably make matters worse rather than better. You cannot meddle with one part of a complex system from the outside without the almost certain risk of setting off disastrous events that you hadn't counted on in other, remote parts. If you want to fix something you are first obliged to understand, in detail, the whole system, and for very large systems you can't do this without a very large computer. Even then, the safest course seems to be to stand by and wring hands, but not to touch. "Intervening is a way of causing trouble." Lewis Thomas, from the essay "On Meddling" in the collection "The Medusa and the Snail", The Viking Press, New York, 1979: Submitted by: harvey@acf2.NYU.EDU (harvey) Nov. 7, 1994 -------------------------------------------------------------- Send quotes to qotd@ensu.ucalgary.ca Send list changes or requests to qotd-request@ensu.ucalgary.ca